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Anthropic co-founder Ben Mann has the clearest definition of AGI I've heard, which he calls The Economic Turning Test:
"If you contract an agent for 1-3 months on a particular job and it turns out to be a machine rather than a person, then it's passed the Economic Turing Test for that role. And if the agent can pass that test for 50% of money-weighted jobs, then we have transformative AI.
If we pass that threshold, then we would expect massive effects on world GDP increases, and societal change, and the number of people that are employed once these things are possible.
That's the start of a new era."
20.7. klo 23.20
Ben Mann (@8enmann) left @OpenAI in 2020 with the entire safety team to co-found @AnthropicAI (now reportedly valued at over $100B).
In a rare interview, Ben opens up about:
🔸 What he saw at OpenAI that convinced him to leave
🔸 The AI nightmare scenarios that concern him most
🔸 His take on Meta’s $100M talent wars
🔸 Why he believes 20% unemployment is inevitable
🔸 His “economic Turing test” for knowing when we’ve achieved AGI—and why it’s likely coming by 2027-2028
🔸 How focusing on AI safety created Claude’s beloved personality
🔸 What three skills he’s teaching his kids to thrive in an AI future
🔸 So much more
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