Bitcoin is known as digital gold. But is it also the new real estate? @Coredao_Org’s head of institution Hong Sun and @saylor think so. Hong explains how bitcoin is evolving, BTCFi is reshaping institutional strategy and what's next for the multi-trillion dollar asset class. Listen in on @_TalkingTokens: Timestamps 0:00 – Who is Hong Sun & what is Core? 0:54 – From Paxos to BTCFi: Hong's journey 2:01 – Why bitcoin yield matters for adoption 2:34 – Yield without custody risk: Time locks explained 4:03 – lstBTC and tokenizing yield 5:44 – ETF buyers vs. yield seekers: the next wave 6:51 – How institutions are thinking about BTC yield 8:12 – Why time locks minimize risk 10:25 – Tax efficiency & regulatory clarity 11:08 – From gold to fixed income: Bitcoin's new narrative 13:14 – Allocating bitcoin in portfolios 15:01 – Is bitcoin the new real estate? 17:14 – Growth of BTCFi across L1s 19:28 – Core as infra for Bitcoin utility 21:30 – New products: Rev+ and more 23:29 – Sharing gas fees with builders 24:37 – The stablecoin connection to BTCFi 26:28 – Monetizing distribution for issuers 27:27 – Incentives for builders & devs on Core 29:33 – Educating institutions on safe BTC yield 32:24 – BTCFi: treasuries, ETFs & traders 34:08 – Positive carry for market makers 35:25 – What dual staking unlocks 38:13 – BTCFi TAM & billion-dollar upside 40:23 – Composable Bitcoin in traditional finance 42:15 – Liquidity, volatility & macro impacts 44:14 – Hong’s advice: think big, build aligned systems

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