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@ConceptualJames is 💯right. Conversations like this do not help the problem; they exacerbate it. “Good intentions” is not a good excuse.
We must make haste to draw lines. Even if it may be too late, it’s incumbent upon every truth-loving person to try.
Thanks to the left, we already know how entryism works. Can we not make the same mistakes, please?
“The Left made the mistake a decade ago of thinking it could reason with radicals who were already beyond reasoning and wrapped up in radicalism tied to their identities.”

25.7. klo 08.13
I initially responded glibly to this, and then I watched it twice. I'll respond more thoroughly now.
I don't like it.
I appreciate what Charlie might be doing here: trying to listen to Gen Z "conservatives" where they are, for some purpose that is not at all clear. In fact, it's one that's making people nervous as hell, particularly in its ambiguity.
I am glad to hear where these Gen Z "conservatives" sit in their thinking but not because I think their points are any more valid than I think Gen Z Leftists' points about race and gender are. I'm listening to another set of denizens of a propagandized younger generation and expected to take their views seriously because it's "their story" or whatever.
It's nice that there's some variation in what people believe about Israel, America, and the other issues touched upon here, and it's good for knowing "what time it is" (close to midnight, y'all) and what kinds of remedial debate are going to be necessary soon, but I take no interest or enjoyment in listening to Generation Brainwashed tell me things their favorite influencers, many of whom are sus af, have been saying for the last two years. What I mostly see is brainwashing works and "Alt Media" is bullsh-t too.
My initial glib statement was that we might as well have a talking tour with trans-identifying Gen Z next and all pretend to take their talking points about "gender" seriously. Honestly, I feel exactly the same way about this, and it tells me what I think the response is.
With the trans issue, Charlie and others, including Charlie and I together on many stages in front of many audiences, often audiences filled with these exact sorts of young "conservatives," who cheered uproaringly for it, have frequently said that loving our neighbor begins with loving the truth. Letting someone persist in lies and error is not loving them, no matter how deeply felt those errors are or how attached to them someone is in their sense of identity. This is no different.
We have one meaningful ally in the Middle East. One. It isn't Qatar. It isn't even Saudi Arabia, though they're at least not as openly hostile as most. It is Israel.
The Middle East is one of the most dangerous regions in the world today and not just for that region. It is dangerous for the world. We all know why, and Israel is the front-line stopgap putting its own existence, sons, and daughters on the line for the world every single day. That effort keeps Americans and people all around the world safer than they would be without it, full stop. End of story.
If people want to play this "America First" game, seeing as Trump is the one who pushed it into prominence in the first place, maybe they should take a Trumpian approach to the matter of all foreign alliances, which include moneys. Is it a good deal for America? The alliance we have with Israel is a good deal for America, problems with the current Israeli government notwithstanding. The conspiracy theories filling the "Alt Media" we all see and hear, beating that fake-ass "America First" drum (as often as not from Pakistan or some hostile sh-thole country propagandizing us here in our own living rooms) tell the opposite story.
I can only speculate as to why so many American "conservative" or "right-wing" influencers are pushing this propaganda. All the usual suspicions likely apply in some measure but not in all: blackmail, money, clicks ("surfing the next wave"), elitist capture (cult), plants, intelligence assets, you name it. I do know it's deliberate, though, and I do know it's meant to drive a lot of wedges. Conversations like this do not help that problem. Well-intended as they may be, they exacerbate it instead.
No one in the conservative universe would listen to a bunch of left-wing Gen Zs prattle on about their propaganda-based views of "gender" and race, to say nothing of their own all-star views of Israel and Jews (re: "Palestine") and think it's discussion worth having beyond intelligence gathering on exactly how far gone those people are. This, in my opinion, is no different.
The time for drawing lines is either near, here, or already past. The Left made the mistake a decade ago of thinking it could reason with radicals who were already beyond reasoning and wrapped up in radicalism tied to their identities.
So, I thank Charlie for doing this. Everyone should listen. Everyone should realize just how deep the sh-t we're in already is.
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